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background audio not recording fully - bisserai - 05-13-2022
Hi FF team,
I have a study in which i present pictures for 5 seconds and people have to say a sentence while i'm recording the background audio. When i listen to the recordings they are cut off - i can hear only half of my sentence, and i'm certain i finished speaking before the picture disappeared. I then tested by counting out loud until 5 so that 5 would come just around the end of picture presentation, and indeed the recordings only last until four or sometimes even three. I tried on chrome (i was using firefox before) and the same rhythm of counting this time had the picture disappear already at four (so this is also unexpected in itself, although i know you recommend chrome and so request participants use that) and then the recording has me counting until three.
I've already set up the background audio to last +1s to stimuli from group1 (that is the pictures)* and it still doesn't do it. Any advice? We definitely need the entirety of whatever was said during picture presentation recorded. In case you wanted to have a look at the study i've made a copy and titled it "study with audio not recording as long as specified".
Best,
bissera
* i've only done it for one of my blocks, to test, the practice block, which only has a few trials.
RE: background audio not recording fully - Ting - 05-14-2022
Hi Bissera,
The relative duration feature works with respect to audio stimuli only, which has a “genuine” duration that we can detect. If you are using pictures, it’s far easier to just set “duration” on the background audio response itself (https://docs.findingfive.com/en/grammar/responses/background-audio#duration). The relative duration feature is really only meant for audio stimuli, which may have variable durations (and thus makes “relative” duration necessary!). For pictures, I imagine you’ll set a prefixed duration to each picture, which defeats the purpose of using relative duration as an advantageous setup.
Hope this helps.
RE: background audio not recording fully - bisserai - 05-16-2022
Hi Ting,
I understand what you mean about using the group duration feature, so i've now changed it, thanks. I tried two timings. The trial is set to last 4s. The background audio response i set first to 5 then to 8 seconds and it still only recorded until i count up to three - while the picture stays on screen until i count up to 5. Not sure what am i doing wrong... there's no delay on the picture stimulus compared to the trial, so i don't understand where this could be coming from... Again, tried with both Firefox and Chrome and the problem is still there (although again, on Chrome i need to count faster to get up to five before the picture disappears).
Best,
bissera
RE: background audio not recording fully - Ting - 05-16-2022
Hi Bissera,
I tested a background audio response with a 10 second duration and it works as expected. Did you set a trial duration which cuts off the trial? I'll ask Rachel to follow up with you.
Ting
RE: background audio not recording fully - Rachel - Participant Affairs - 05-16-2022
Hi bissera,
Did Ting's solution work for you? If not, would you mind sharing the study with me ([email protected]), and I'll take a look?
Best,
Rachel
RE: background audio not recording fully - bisserai - 05-22-2022
Hi both,
First sorry it too me so long to reply - i'm swamped with work and only get to this study on weekends.
Thanks for this - the audio now records until the end of picture presentation. Why is it though that i need to set it to last twice the duration of the picture though, i thought it doesnt' start until the picture is presented?
Best,
bissera
RE: background audio not recording fully - Ting - 05-23-2022
Hi Bissera,
This sounds super odd. You can still share the study with Rachel so that she can check for you. There's also a possibility that your computer may have timing issues - some AMD-based computers and laptops may do that, if drivers are not properly installed. Did you acquire a new computer recently? If you can test your study on multiple computers, do they all behave the same way like this?
On our end, the duration feature has always been working as expected. We have a variety of Macs and PCs and they all behave the same.
Ting
RE: background audio not recording fully - bisserai - 05-24-2022
Hi both,
I made a copy titled "study with background audio issue" so you can change whatever you like on it. It's the same mac as before (i.e. other FF studies with background audio ran ok on it) and although initially i thought it was my browser (i have a lot of ad, flash and whatnot blockers) it did a similar thing on Chrome. I'll try with the old setting on another computer and let you know.
Thanks for the support (:
Best,
bissera
RE: background audio not recording fully - Rachel - Participant Affairs - 05-24-2022
Hi bissera,
Would you mind adding me ([email protected]) as a collaborator on that study? I can't access it otherwise.
Thanks!
Rachel